In this episode we go 9 hardscrabble rounds, and land a couple of massive haymakers...
Part 1 [01:31] - Loser!
Part 2 [03:47] - Life Lessons and Library Cards
Part 3 [06:57] - Tobacco Road
Part 4 [10:07] - Powerball Culture
Part 5 [13:36] - Connect the Dots
Part 6 [16:58] - Libtards or Deplorables?
Part 7 [20:11] - objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Part 8 [24:48] - Practice, Practice, Practice
Part 9 [28:55] - The Wife and Kids
Hi, and welcome to Episode 9 of the Hansel and Gretel Code...
🎶 Bach - Partita no. 2 BWV 826 - V. Rondeaux 🎶
so, after spending a good portion of our first 8 episodes indoors — in the religion section of the library, today we’re back outside, right in front of our fairytale forest... and it’s time for the second sentence of the story...
in it, we’re going to learn something a bit more particular about our woodcutter’s situation... and then we’re going to be introduced to his little family…
just remember: at the end of today’s episode I’ll tell you how you can get my copy of the fairytale manuscript (for free, of course) so that you can follow along and know what’s coming...
00:54
[“Hooray!”]
alrighty then, here are the first 2 sentences of our story:
Es war einmal ein armer Holzhacker, der wohnte vor einem groĂźen Wald.
Es ging ihm gar jämmerlich, daß er kaum seine Frau, und seine zwei Kinder ernähren konnte.
Once upon a time there was a poor woodcutter who lived before a great forest.
He had it so rough he could barely feed his wife and two children.
*🎶*🎶*
Part 1 -Â Eins: LOSER!
Well, now we know.
Despite invoking Thoreau, the sublime and the divine ecstasy of Unio Mystica — becoming one with God — it turns out that our bohemian woodcutter, the descendant of countless poverty loving monks, nuns, free spirits and New Age zealots, isn't just humble and sincere, he really IS near-destitute.
In following his calling, and the still, small voice of the heart, he’s apparently fallen victim to naive, wishful thinking...
instead of finding his bliss, he’s found himself right behind the eight ball... and if that wasn’t bad enough— he’s selfishly put his entire family at risk of starvation.
02:32
[moans...]
Well...do I need to say it? What a loser! Right?
How many practical minded folk wouldn’t just love to get in his face and repeat that famous mantra of the commonsensically clairvoyant: “I told you so...” — not to mention that cogent query of the infallibly streetwise: “Hey, why don’t you get a real job, ya bum...!”
of course, you and I weren’t thinking that way… we just know plenty of people who do…
and like it or not, that line of thought might be something worth exploring…
so before we get any deeper into the metaphoric underbrush let’s just look at his poverty as something we can all understand... something we’re all much more familiar with than that nonsensical, voluntary variety…
except, hey, wait just minute...
Where did that hyper-critical, judgmental attitude come from in the first place...? and why should we even bring it up...?
03:40
[“I dunno...”]
*🎶*🎶*
Part 2 -Â Zwei: LIFE LESSONS AND LIBRARY CARDS
well, before I propose an answer to those questions let me just share this brief snippet from a blog post about Hansel and Gretel... one that’s pretty typical of what people tend to think about the meaning and purpose of the story...
(and just so you know, this isn’t some random blog from someone who likes fairytales... this comes from the official website of the NY Public library)
04:24
[“oooh...”]
...children can learn quite a bit from the story's young protagonists. What can be learned?
well, the author goes on to list 8 typically orthodox things... (and I just can’t help it... that list kinda made me think of Pope Clement V’s naughty 8 list from his official condemnation of Beghards and Beguines back in episode 8 — just sayin’)
what interests us here just happens to be the first thing on that blog list:
(The story) introduces children to the concept and reality of poverty.
alright, fair enough, except I’ve got a bone to pick with that... because I seriously doubt that any child growing up in poverty (and the NY Public Library probably sees more than its share of them) needs lessons in “the concept and reality of poverty”...
and geeze, the poor kids sure as hell don’t need any further introduction to the topic... in fact, any poor kid from anywhere could probably teach that blogger a thing or two or three about poverty...
05:48
[“roger, that”]
now on top of that, I also doubt that any kid whose family doesn’t fit the description of poor or destitute wants to learn anything at all about poverty...
and that’s not because children are insensitive... far from it...
children understand so much more than adults realize, especially when it comes to fairytales, because children intuitively catch on to what’s being said between the lines... in other words, they understand and accept the language of metaphor much more easily than adults...
so, I’m not saying that the adult who wrote that blog post is wrong... because that’s neither here nor there...
what I AM saying is that its author completely ignored the concept of poverty as metaphor, and chose to look at it strictly as commonsensically literal...
so, let’s find out if that’s the right road to go down...
06:51
[“okay, but you go first”]
*🎶*🎶*
Part 3 -Â Drei: TOBACCO ROAD
well, first of all, unless we ourselves have had the experience of being dirt poor, we can’t know what it feels like to be literally poor...Â
yeah sure, we all understand it as a concept... many of us Boomers and Gen-Xer’s have heard enough about it from parents and grandparents who were bona fide, Depression era poor...
and maybe we’ve even flirted with it ourselves, by going into debt, and fretting about it...
hell, some of us have even crossed the line of the official government definition — the federal poverty threshold — without becoming destitute and homeless... that’s about it though...
given those limits on our experience, let’s at least look at what we all tend to associate with the idea of literal poverty... since that might be the key we need to understand where the fairytale is leading us...
08:10
[“alright, if you insist”]
I think we’re all aware that in contemporary Western society poor is another word for weak... and the poor aren’t just considered weak, they do, indeed, lack power... they literally have very little spending or buying power and certainly no political power...
and while economic self-sufficiency is considered a sign of strength, maturity, and responsibility, the poor are often viewed with suspicion — if not outright disapproval — since poverty might as well be a sign of moral weakness...
08:51
[“that’s correct”]
as I said in Episode 4, conservative opinion would have it that the poor are uneducated, lazy, and irresponsible people who lack all drive, ambition or will-power — except when it comes to exploiting the system... and getting something for nothing...
09:11
[“don’t say that”]
liberal opinion is obviously different, hovering somewhere between sympathy, empathy and pity... yet nobody — not the strictest of conservatives or Mother Teresa herself, was born thinking this way.
whatever opinions we hold as adults come from lessons taught to us by the culture we were born into... and those are all compounded by life lessons...
the most potent force that tends to change those opinions comes from things we subsequently learn ABOUT our native culture... and let me tell you, this story has so much more to teach us all about Western European history and culture than anybody has ever dreamed...
10:01
[“Johnny, is this true?”]
*🎶*🎶*
Part 4-Â Vier: POWERBALL CULTURE
10:17
[crowd 1 - musician / crowd 2 - market / anvil and hammer]
Consider the prevailing culture at the presumable time of our story, somewhere in the Middle Ages, when that mendicant / apostolic / voluntary poverty business was all the rage... the profusion of Beghards, Beguines and Free Spirit groups were tolerated and supported— if only up to a point.
Sure, begging — even for the sake of God and Salvation — couldn't help but offend the industrious sensibility of peasants and merchants... people forced to earn a living by the copious and diligent sweat of their brows.
yet back then, every European Christian — meaning a vast majority of the populace — was so deeply concerned about their own prospects for eternal Salvation, the culture allowed for and fostered both the giving AND receiving of alms as something of a guaranteed hedge against eternal damnation...
11:34
[“that’s awesome”]
it wasn’t until the 16th Century — with the Protestant Reformation and Calvinism’s concept of Predestination — that wealth came to be understood as a clear, heavenly sign of God’s favor and inevitable Salvation... and that made poverty a logically obvious sign of God’s disapproval and inevitable damnation...
11:46
[“3 women scream”]
Now, the story doesn’t tell us why our woodcutter is poor, so as far as we know, it’s possible that his poverty is self-inflicted, and otherwise spiritually, morally or even karmically deserved.
12:05
[“that’s bad”]
so maybe the story is trying to tell us that he’s morally bankrupt...
12:12
[“I don’t want to tell you”]
hell, considering his eventual waffling over whether or not to abandon his children, maybe that’s all there is to it...
12:21
[“maybe”]
except I’m not buying it...
just think, this guy ends up being rich at the end of the story, and all he contributed to that accumulation of wealth — the jewels his 2 children bring back from the gingerbread house — was his decision to abandon them in the forest...?
please... that’s not only confusing... it’s just too literal: a Calvinist rags to riches story with him winning the lottery...
considering the fact that the Grimm’s themselves were Calvinists, is that all this story is about...? an upside down commentary on Calvinist theology, Predestination, and the magic morality of a Powerball jackpot...?
13:09
[“cha ching!”]
com’on... I mean, even if we consider winning the lottery to be an Act of God, it’s still just a literal matter of statistical im-probability...
13:22
[“oh well”]
and in ALL probability, this literal lack of money business is just a road that leads to an interpretive dead end...
13:32
[“oh crap!”]
*🎶*🎶*
Part 5 -Â FĂĽnf: CONNECT THE DOTS
so let’s try separating this guy’s monetary problem from literal money, and see if we can’t connect it to something else... in other words let’s look at it as a metaphor.
13:57
[“well, okay”]
it doesn’t cost us anything, and the payoff may be huge...
14:05
[“I like THAT!”]
all we have to do is connect some dots... and the dots in question lead us right to another metaphor we’ve already come across: namely, the one based on that juxtaposition of forest and clearing we spoke about in Episode 4.
14:22
[“huh?”]
As a deliberately liminal or borderline position the fairy tale insists on — having this guy live right on the edge of the forest — well, sure, that reflects the financially precarious state of both the woodcutter and our own modern lower middle class... hard workers who are often only one illness or accident away from outright poverty and homelessness.
14:49
[“I know (sigh)”]
and yet here we are again... this is still too literal... it still ties poverty to money...
14:58
[“well, this is awkward”]
and insisting that the literal lack of money is all there is to know or say about this aspect of our story has zero metaphoric punch...
15:10
[“yeah, so what?”]
well, unless we ourselves are, or have ever been dirt poor — like this woodcutter family — it doesn’t hit us where we live...
no...
see, metaphors are the building blocks of a fairytale... and a fairytale can’t come alive and become universally known, loved — or even hated — unless each and every one of its metaphors apply to us and the circumstances of our lives...
15:42
[“really?”]
they’ve got to hit home with each and every one of us, otherwise they’re no more relevant than yesterday’s news...
15:49
[“blah, blah, blah...”]
If the story resonates, it’s not because we’ve all had the same exact literal experience as the people in it... it’s because we intuitively recognize ourselves and our own experience in the unspoken version of the story... the one that its metaphors are telling us... the story that’s being told between the lines...
16:16
[“yeah”]
so let's see if we can find the dots forming a metaphoric line that applies to just about everyone of us... and not just lumberjacks living hand to mouth...
16:38
[“you're scaring me”]
I think I’ve got one that might be a pretty accurate description of where most of us are, and not in terms of our financials, but in terms of our everyday psychological state... and let me tell you, I think this one is a real gut punch...
16:55
[“uh oh”]
16:56
[“let's get ready to rumble”]
*🎶*🎶*
Part 6 -Â Sechs: LIBTARDS or DEPLORABLES...?
going back to where we started — that metaphoric juxtaposition of forest and clearing... remember how we talked about the forest as being symbolic of the unconscious...?Â
17:22[no!] and how that makes the clearing adjacent to it — the place our woodcutter lived: consciousness...?
17:29
[“whatever”]
well, on that basis, we can see his shaky financial status as a metaphor for his state of consciousness, meaning: he’s barely conscious at all...
17:42
[“what?”]
so what does that even mean...? we’re obviously either 100% conscious and awake or we’re 100% unconscious... meaning asleep or in a coma...
except the fairytale is telling us a different story... it’s telling us that there are degrees of consciousness that can be thought of or even measured the way we measure wealth... in other words as rich, or adequate or poor...
and maybe because of the annoying and sanctimonious attitude associated with our own New Age rhetoric, I don’t want to call this a measure of how “woke” he may or may not be...
18:26
[“why the fuck not?”]
I’d much rather call it his state or level of awareness...
18:33
[“oh, very nice... much better”]
actually, given that there’s the concept of “woke” there’s also the alternate concept of “common sense”... and while some people consider the implications of “woke” to be the sine qua non of awareness, others, who seem genuinely offended by those implications consider “common sense” to be the gold standard...
18:58
[“oh, and I suppose you think that’s funny, huh...”]
see, each side is measuring awareness according to their own criteria, and each side presumes the other to be ignorant... which is to say, ignorant of or at least less unaware of what their side values and considers worth paying attention to...
all that really means is that some people are more aware of / conscious of— and value —certain things rather than others... and vice versa...
you get the picture...
19:30
[“interesting”]
so does this mean that our woodcutter is something of an ignorant dolt...? raising a family of dolts: either “woke” elitist snowflakes lacking all common sense, or just a basket of bitter, xenophobic deplorables brimming with common sense?
19:51
[“who cares?”]
well, if either one is the case, then we’ve just turned our metaphor into a contentious modern meme that only divides, denigrates and diminishes our humanity...
20:05
[“I don’t like you... I don’t like you at all”]
*🎶*🎶*
Part 7 -Â Sieben: objects in mirror are closer than they appear
well, here comes that gut punch...
20:25
[“down goes Frazier!”]
if we’re all willing to see at least some aspect of ourselves in the mirror of this family and these first 2 sentences of the fairytale, then, regardless of our personal financial status, how “woke” we think we are, what our educational status might be, and just how sensible, sensitive or perceptive we know ourselves to be, we might ALL be missing the boat and just getting by in a sort of chronically poor spiritual, emotional, or even cognitive sense.
21:14
[“oh no!”]
meaning, we’re all relatively unconscious, unaware, and ignorant of something we ALL desperately need more of...
21:28
[“oh crap!”]
in other words, we all need to wake up to the fact that something, just like our woodcutter’s income, is in very short supply... something that NONE of us have very much of... not even the rich...
21:46
[“oh crap!”]
at least as a hypothesis, this fairytale metaphor presents us with a collective, cultural, tough-love truth... a truth that may be difficult to swallow, and yet just having a glimpse of the idea is enough to start reversing the downward spiral of unconsciousness and lack of awareness we’re all suffering from...
and that’s because, despite the blow such an observation gives to the ego, the purpose of it is not to assign blame, insult anyone or induce guilt...
No. In the spirit of “objects in mirror are closer than they appear,” it’s just a small, but significant reminder for the sake of our own psychological health and safety. The point being, we may not see that we’re barely able to feed ourselves what we need to become more conscious and self-aware; in fact, since we’re not even sure what that is, we may not even have a taste for it.
this fairytale is reminding us that for whatever reason, we all need something that — just like a piss-poor CashFlow — is in short supply... some something we don't even realize is essential to greater consciousness, awareness, and even: happiness...
and whatever it is, that certain something doesn’t come in a bottle, either of spirits or of vitamins... no, this is something that money can’t buy—and I’m not talking about love...
Whether you perceive this missing something to be more literally connected to money — and therefore symbolic of Will-Power, Drive, and Ambition — or take a more sympathetic view of our woodcutter and his situation, this fairy tale poverty as metaphor of relative un-consciousness must still strike an empathic cord.
All the more so if, despite your best and most sincere efforts, you find angst, boredom or just a naggingly vague emotional and spiritual hunger to be the usual state of affairs in your own life.
In fact, many of us drawn to this tale as adults — and who care to think about it — might judge ourselves to be living lives of quiet desperation, especially while striving for greater consciousness and a deliberate life, or perhaps, even because of it, since doing so often comes at the expense of economic success and social dominance.
And, as I’ve said, this may be true precisely BECAUSE we have all been forced to unconsciously accept the notion of money as the measure of success, if not satisfaction in life.
24:42
[“10 dollars? Are you kidding me!”]
*🎶*🎶*
Part 8 -Â Acht: PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE
In practical terms, if we’re going to find that certain necessary something we need in order to escape the metaphoric poverty of consciousness we’re all in, the Unconscious is where we’ve got to look...
25:13
🎶 Beethoven - Piano Sonata no. 14 in C#m 'Moonlight', Op. 27 no. 2 - I. adagio sostenuto 🎶
So there's one commonsensical truth about the Unconscious that's worth noting, and that is: if we pay attention to it (simply by refusing to dismiss it out of hand), we actually gain in consciousness and awareness.
and so what does it even mean: to pay attention to the Unconscious... especially if by definition, it pretty much amounts to everything that we don’t even know that we don’t know... which just naturally includes plenty of awful things we can be sure that we would never even want to know...
Well, we don’t have to come up with a definitive answer... we just need some practical technique...
one of the techniques of the ancient Greeks was called a nekyia...
26:09
[“huh?”]
which ultimately meant calling up ghosts... and having them tell you what you needed to know...
26:16
[“what?”]
that may sound awfully silly and impractical... ridiculous, even... and yet, if you approach the idea itself as metaphoric, you can see that it’s much less silly than any literal interpretation of an afterlife, and much more concrete than the vague concept of that very thing we call The Unconscious... (I’ll leave a link to the wikipedia article, which is as good as any place to start reading about it...)
26:45
[“thanks”]
another more familiar — and currently popular — technique is meditation... and while there are myriad techniques and forms of meditation they all involve something like turning off the logical part of your brain and trying to ignore your thoughts...
and THAT, of course, is so much easier said than done... even with an app...
now, believe it or not, paying attention to metaphor (especially as we’re doing right here and now) is a form of meditation as well... except, instead of having to ignore your thoughts, you give them free rein, and you even allow your logical mind to participate in the process... and that is the practical advantage of metaphor...
metaphor is a deep well of hidden meaning... and trying to suss out that meaning amounts to bringing something up and out of the well of the Unconscious and into the light of Consciousness...
Finally, on the more collective level, another technique involves paying at least lip service to organized religion or the faith you practice... and that’s because religion is the most conventional and orthodox of all prescriptions for paying attention to and properly dealing with the Unconscious.
28:11
[“no way!”]
we’ve already seen that those medieval poverty lovers and ancestors of our woodcutter all sought that necessary something in their own less than orthodox practice of religion and spirituality... and they were so convinced that they would find it there, they even risked the horrors of the Inquisition...
28:35
🎶 inquisition splash 🎶
and that’s because the middlemen of Vatican orthodoxy — popes and prelates who have always guaranteed that they’ve got the Unconscious covered / and under control — just weren’t doing it for them...
28:52
[“damn!”]
*🎶*🎶*
Part 9 -Â Neun: THE WIFE AND KIDS
now there’s one more technique of looking into and paying attention to the Unconscious that I didn’t mention... and it’s the most personal technique of all... because it involves listening to that still, small voice of the heart, and following your calling which, oddly and ironically enough, is exactly what our woodcutter is doing...
so I think that kinda brings us to a screeching halt...
29:27
[“car screeching to a halt”]
because no matter how we think of this need for greater consciousness or self-awareness — by all accounts, our woodcutter, who’s humbly listening to the still, small voice of the heart, following his calling, AND going off to work every day deep IN the Unconscious, well... the guy should be prospering!
Something, obviously, is very, very wrong here...
30:02
[“what seems to be the problem?”]
apparently, that certain something necessary for greater consciousness is either so rare and precious that it will always be in ridiculously short supply OR he’s going about it all wrong...
And that begs the question: is it our interpretation and assessment of the psychological facts and the metaphors that's so far off base — I mean, are we just thrashing around here...? or is there more going on than we've yet been told?
30:35
[“what the hell?”]
30:40
🎶 Beethoven - Sonata No. 21, Op. 53 in C Major Waldstein - I. Allegro Con Brio 🎶
Well, in episode 10 we’re going to examine the next obvious clue from this sentence: that our woodcutter isn’t alone... he has a wife and 2 kids...
and while that might not sound like anything much to go on, it actually gives us another valuable key to the entire fairytale... a key that’s hidden right where the Unconscious generally hides the most valuable things: in plain sight... and what I’m talking about is the number four...
so until next time, give a think to what having a four-square family might mean in the context of our fairytale... and not just ours... any fairytale...
and just know that as a metaphor, it might not be a knock-out punch, but it sure packs a wallop...
31:21
[“down goes Frazier!”]
well... thanks for listening... I hope you’re enjoying the story so far...
just remember that if you’d like a free copy of the original manuscript version of the story — the one I’m using here — just go to the website and send me an email requesting the pdf... hit the link that says: “Talk to me” and tell me you want the pdf... easy peasy...
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
I’ll send it to you and put you on my mailing list...
the website, of course, is betweenthelines.xyz where you’ll find transcripts for each episode and links to my other websites and podcasts: kristo.art and kristo.com
alrighty, then... ciao a tutti...
[ciao, ciao]
*German Fairytale Reading by JĂĽrgen Lexow*
*Chapter Titles read by Anna Jacobsen*
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Episode 8 - Hey, Man - Got Any Bread? / Episode 10 - The Four Horsemen