In episode 26 we stick our noses deeper into the magical darkness of Hermeticism, get deeper insight into the Emerald Tablet, and find a new connection between Hansel's Moon rocks and Hermes Trismegistus: in Sweden
Part 1 [11:15] - In which we fall asleep while reading the Emerald Tablet, and find ourselves dreaming about some furry cousin of Rocky the Flying Squirrel
Part 2 [21:23] - In which we read what a few Wikipedia Editors have to say about Hermeticism and then do some alternate thinking for ourselves
Part 3 [32:38] - In which we get on the Time Machine and take a little trip to look for the real Hermes Trismegistus: in Sweden?
[quiet on set... places everybody... and, action!]
[hi, I’m here! the party can start now.]
[I bid you welcome]
[okay, sound effects: Blood Sucking]
[oh brother]
[the following presentation is intended ONLY for immature audiences]
😇 🎶 heavenly choir 🎶 😇
["And God said 'Let there be F-Bombs' — And they were good — And they multiplied — Right here, in this podcast"]
[not again! Pow!]
🧨 🧨 🧨 [nuclear blast] 💥︎ 💥︎ 💥︎
🎶 dramatic organ music 🎶
🎶 🔔 deep church bell 🔔 🎶 /p>
Bless me Father, for I have sinned... It’s been almost 2 months since my last episode and dese are my sins...
[okay can I get your name and where you’re from?]
[my name is Frankenstein!]
[no, it’s not]
I lied, fader...
[oh no!]
yeah, well... in my last episode I said we were gonna meet the Cumaean Sibyl and the real Dr. Faust... and we are, I swear to God... just not in this episode...
[you just ruined everything!]
🎶 Anachronist 🎶
Hi there and welcome back to the Hansel and Gretel Code...
[I thought I was in the wrong place]
this here is Episode 26
[ooooh yes, y’all! we gonna do this again, like it’s normal anymore]
In our last episode we attended a fairytale fashion show where 3 distinctive dresses clued us into the intimate connection between certain fairytales and Hermeticism... in other words, many fairytales will have some symbol or element that metaphorically represents one or even all 3 of the Hermetic arts: Astrology, Alchemy and Theurgy...
And that last one...Theurgy? well that was something I didn’t really know much about, EXCEPT through Jung’s curiously indirect way of referring to it whenever he explained the meaning of the word, Numen...
[huh?]
see, in our time, Numen — that pretty much has only one meaning...
[what’s that?]
you know:
[hiya, Newman]
right...?
[yes sir!]
yeah, well according to Jung, numen is the Latin word meaning a nod or a sign... and it’s the source of the word numinous...
[oooh heh, heh, heh, heh, heh Lukey boy you’re so fucken smart! ]
well numinous should be something we can all relate to because it refers to that sensation you get when you’re having what’s otherwise known as a religious experience...
🎶 The Sublime 🎶
[ahem]
you know what I mean, that sensation of awe you get when your deity is giving you a clear sign that you’re in his or her presence...
[what are you talking about?]
hey, I’m talking about the sensation you get when you’re having a genuine — if not literal — holy shit! er, I mean holy, sacred moment...
[Dracula is in the house.]
[In the house!!?!!]
[ahem]
very often, it’s the sort of thing that happens out in Nature when you see something impressive, unusual or spectacular... in other words, when you’re witness to any sort of sensational expression of the power of Nature (with a capital N)...
[oh really?]
yeah... Jung gave it a more intriguing, historical explanation: he said that the ancients would go up to the statue of a god or goddess and whisper in its ear, asking for something... but then unlike anyone of us who’s ever whispered a prayer and then gone about our business... these ancients would sit in front of the statue and wait patiently, reverently and meditatively for the statue to give them a sign, which, according to Jung, came in the form of a physically perceived nod of the head...
[pirate says, what a load of bollocks]
yeah, well, Jung never said so, but in my earliest research into Hansel and Gretel I learned that this statue business came right out of Hermeticism... which is to say the Hermetic literature... and while academics have called what they were doing: "animating statues" we can and should call these people, these ancients, by their rightful name...
[what’s that?]
they were Theurgists... because what they were doing qualifies as a form of Theurgy...
[ooh]
now I also learned early on that Theurgy might as well be considered the highest and most ancient form of what’s otherwise known as magic or even witchcraft...
[ooh!]
so in order to understand Theurgy better, my work on episode 25 and this current episode forced me to stick my nose much deeper into the formidable rabbit hole known as Hermeticism...
[this doesn’t smell quite the way I expected]
and that’s where I got a strong whiff of the fact that Theurgy actually qualifies as the deepest aspect of just about every religion known to man...
[what?]
hey, looked at with the eyes of logic and reason, Theurgy seems to be nothing more than magical-wishful-thinking or self-delusional miracle-working... and you know what?
[what?]
it even calls to mind those weeping or bleeding statue reports that most of us Catholics have heard about somewhere along the line...
[you realize some people aren’t going to be happy with this]
yeah, but that’s logic and reason sticking it’s snooty, pointy nose in places where it doesn’t belong... in other words, into the numinous — which is something we spoke about back in episode 4
[I remember]
Theurgy, above all, is an art and exercise of Intuition...
it’s a practice in which the Theurgist communicates directly and privately with his or her God... a communication initiated through the reverential attitude and activity of the Theurgist and completed through the benevolence and grace of the Deity...
[let me know if you know more about the source of all creation]
[what the hell?]
and speaking of grace... let me just whisper into YOUR ears that I could really use the grace of your support...
[you dare to face a goddess?]
I’ll leave a link to my buy me a ko-fi page in the notes and on the website and then patiently wait for, uh, you know...the spirit to uh, move you...
🎶 The Sublime 🎶
[that’s uh, not funny]
aw c’mon... you know the drill...
[visit us on the web at www,www, etc...]
[spread the love, y’all]
[amen!]
getting back to ancient Theurgy, the fact that it’s connected to Hermeticism, is almost a red herring, because these days Hermeticism has become a catchphrase for any sort of occult-ish, new-agey esotericism...
[hello and welcome to this meditation today. I’m glad you’re here.. we’re gonna take it very easy and we’re gonna try to do the meditation as quick as possible. let’s be efficient.]
[ahem]
see it was supposed to mean any text attributed to Hermes Trismegistus... and while there ARE theurgical texts that don’t mention him at all... somehow Hermes Trismegistus got himself written into this fairytale... which is to say he’s clearly referenced right here between the lines of this fairytale, and specifically, in Hansel’s Moon Rocks...
that said, knowing exactly who Hermes Trismegistus is or was will take us a helluva long way towards understanding exactly what Hansel and Gretel is all about...
[I don’t get it, because the name is just kinda boring]
hey, YOU remember Hermes Trismegistus, right...? that guy we met and, um, praised back in episode 25...
[no!]
c’mon, sure you do... you know:
[hip, hip, hooray...]
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PART ONE [11:15]
TEIL EINS: In which we fall asleep while reading the Emerald Tablet, and find ourselves dreaming about some furry cousin of Rocky the Flying Squirrel
[eenie meenie chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak]
[are they friendly spirits?]
[friendly? just listen]
Hermeticism is quite the can of worms. Not because the material is so illogical and difficult to follow... in fact, reading through translations of the Hermetic material is a piece of cake — as long as you’re tuned into your Intuition, that is... no, the real difficulty is that there are so many empirical facts concerning Hermeticism — and especially, Theurgy — that are relevant to our story it’s hard to know where to begin.
For the record, I’m not an expert on Hermeticism, and I gotta admit, before this episode, I hadn’t read any of the so-called Corpus Hermeticum...
[uh, excuse you]
yeah, I know... The Corpus Hermeticum is a small collection of texts that rocked the Renaissance and turned plenty of Quattrocento intellectuals into New-Age, Neoplatonic groupies...
[oh wow man]
the only Hermetic text I HAD read was the so-called Emerald Tablet, and that was probably because it’s only 14 sentences long... of course, everybody knows the Emerald Tablet by that cheesy, new-age catchphrase: "as above, so below..."
[of course]
but I happen to know it a bit more deeply
[how?]
well, it was from a dream I once had in 1998...
[oh really?]
yeah, this dream was like a theater piece that vividly portrayed the Emerald Tablet’s 7th and 8th sentences in a way logic would never tolerate...
[you can’t do that!]
I’m gonna quote them for you, but as you listen, think of them as if they were describing an alchemical operation taking place in some hermetically sealed laboratory glassware...
[sound of creaky wooden door opening and closing followed by footsteps]
[sound of someone bumping into a table]
[sound of glass breaking]
[sound of one more glass breaking]
[oops!]
[oh brother]
You will separate the earth from the fire, the subtle from the dense, sweetly, with great skill.
It ascends from earth into heaven and again it descends to the earth, and receives the power of higher and of lower things.
[but that’s all superstition]
well... so here’s my dream:
[well, good night]
I’m in the courtyard of a big medieval sort of palazzo...
[oh, very nice]
after I woke up, I recognized it as the 18th century Palazzo Aldrovandi in Bologna... that was a place I knew in real life because I spent one summer going there every morning to study for my physiology exam... see, there was a university library housed in the palazzo... and I desperately needed the discipline of getting up and going to that library every morning because physiology was such a bitch for me to learn...
in the dream I was aware of seeing some small animal flying around that I understood to be a flying mole...
[ugh! ew!]
you know... kinda like Rocky the Flying Squirrel
of course there ain’t no such animal, but that’s what Psyche was giving me, and I could see that he wasn’t doing all that well with his flying until some huge fire rose up in the courtyard that started lifting him up on the flames and heated up air... then just as he reached the northeast corner of the roof it started to rain and all that water washed him right down the drainpipe... and I could see that down on the street he got spit out into something like a rain barrel...
back then I recognized the alchemical significance of the dream — after all I was deep into reading Jung at the time — but I hadn’t understood why the dream gave me a mole flying around in it until I read the Emerald Tablet...
so now, fast forward 24 years, and because of this podcast, I’m finally digging into more Hermetica than just the Emerald Tablet... and THAT’s why this episode has taken me so much longer to produce than I would have liked...
see, the important Hermetic texts themselves aren’t exactly a rabbit hole —
[is there a book you’d like me to help you find?]
but they ARE well worth any time you might take just to read them —
[typical... he’d want the biggest book in the library]
and if you tune into your Intuition, you’ll find that some of the stuff is really fascinating...
[I don’t think so]
okay, maybe it’s not as vivid as my flying mole dream... but overall it IS pretty friggen’ important... and what I mean by important is that it was — and still is — meant to have a serious impact on our Culture and therefore, our everyday lives...
[what a load of rubbish]
just don’t read it expecting to find all sorts of entertaining woo-woo...
[why the fuck not?]
it turns out that a certain portion of the Hermetic material — and especially the Corpus Hermeticum — says next to nothing at all about our 3 intuitive arts... in fact, it’s almost enough to put you to sleep,
[why, why, why, why?]
because it focuses on the same sort of stuff referenced in the Book of Genesis...
[oh mein Gott, oh mein Gott, oh mein Gott]
it talks about the origin of man, the origin of God (and the gods), and it brings up the origin of the soul, the origin of the cosmos, and even talks about the fall of man...
[I often think about the god who blessed us with this cryptic puzzle]
granted, that may not sound like anything that affects your everyday life... it DOES have profound implications for Western European / Judeo-Christian Culture... which means, my frents, it has a tremendous impact on those of us born into that Culture... because whatever Culture we’re born into shapes the way we do whatever it is we do every day, and the way we think about anything and EVERYTHING...
[bollocks, just bollocks]
so aside from that cosmologic, philosophic business, a good portion of the Hermetic material does, indeed, speak to Astrology, Alchemy, and for lack of a more precise term: Theurgic Magic...
see, but through it all — and I mean everything except the most crass of magic spells and instructions meant for purely egotistical purposes — the Hermetic texts and even the 3 Hermetic arts — are all really about instructing us on how we can properly get back: not necessarily to Eden, because Eden is mostly judeo-christian...
and this material is far more universal than that...
they’re all about the soul’s return to it’s divine origin... in other words: the aim of Hermeticism amounts to the very same thing as the metaphoric aims of Hansel and Gretel... you know, getting back home to their origin — that heavenly place known as home and the house of their father...
and I guess as far as my own soul is concerned, it’s probably looking for some heavenly place where it can play an exciting game of theological whack-a-mole...
[dad joke groans]
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PART TWO [21:23]
TEIL ZWEI: In which we read what a few Wikipedia Editors have to say about Hermeticism and then do some alternate thinking for ourselves
[whadda y’all think?]
[you know what I think? I said this before but I think that anybody who disagrees with me is just a fucken’ bitch. I mean, really!]
So here’s how at least one iteration of Wikipedia described Hermeticism:
Hermeticism (is)...a set of philosophical and religious beliefs based primarily upon the pseudepigraphical writings attributed to Hermes Trismegistus.
[what the fuck does that mean?]
well, that sentence doesn’t tell us anything about what those philosophical and religious beliefs are, it just says that any text attributed to Hermes Trismegistus qualifies as Hermetica... it also says that none of the Hermetic texts were actually written by Hermes Trismegistus... the real, anonymous authors just said they were...
[that’s not good]
that’s a pretty consistent theme throughout history... all sorts of books were attributed to famous authors — guys like Aristotle, Aquinas and Apollonius — THEY had their names plastered on all sorts of books they never wrote... obviously, the real authors did that to give their books a cachet of importance and authority they themselves couldn’t command...
you know, who’s gonna wanna read anything written by Curtis Cates... I mean, puhlease...!
[amen!]
so, regardless of who wrote them, the 3 most famous of all the Hermetic texts are:
- The Corpus Hermeticum
- The Emerald Tablet
- The Perfect Sermon... which is also known as the Asclepius...
[oh my god, oh my god! they’re overpriced. they are overpriced]
[ahem]
that first one, the Corpus Hermeticum, is a collection of short texts from somewhere around the 2nd century CE... the collection had disappeared somewhere into Islam, but then made its way back into Europe around 1462 when it was translated into Latin first by Marsilio Ficino (1433-1499) and then by Lodovico Lazzarelli (1447–1500).
[si, si, si... esatto]
Wikipedia has said:
These post-Christian Greek texts dwell upon the oneness and goodness of God, urge the purification of the soul, and defend pagan religious practices such as the veneration of images.
[oh, I love you, I love you, I fucking love you, I love you so much]
[oh brother]
see that veneration of images business is a blunted reference to Jung’s explanation of the numen, and the talking and nodding statues we spoke about in Episode 25.
[I remember]
Not to overly criticize the Wikipedia authors, but calling this stuff pagan is kinda hilarious... even though it sorta qualifies as that...
overall, the wiki article pretty much repeats the heavily biased, perspective of mainstream Christianity... and that includes not only the modern Christian perspective, but the perspective of our Renaissance Catholic translator, Marsilio Ficino, and everyone else who read that translation and found themselves fascinated by the material... and while they all delighted in it —
[I hate it with a passion]
well, all except for St. Augustine (354-430) that is... a good millenium before Ficino, Augustine already knew about Hermes Trismegistus and considered him to be blind and hold perversely positive views about things that he considered "vain, deceitful, pernicious (and) sacrilegious...."
[oh that’s not good, oh boy]
anyway, let me tell you WHY so many guys were fascinated by the Hermetic texts...
[please, don’t do that]
see, the wiki article says:
Their predominant literary form is the dialogue: Hermes Trismegistus instructs a perplexed disciple upon various teachings of the hidden wisdom.
[that’s not funny]
that’s not funny...
eh, maybe not, but that "hidden wisdom" business is just the sort of new-age hook that would attract plenty of readers back then AND today... and you know what?
[what?]
I gotta tell you, in finally reading these texts for myself, it suddenly hit me... OOOH...! they sound like the Baltimore catechism
[oh and I suppose you think that’s funny, huh?]
yeah I do, because the Baltimore Catechism (or as my 5th grade teacher called it: the Ball-tee-more Catechism) was a real pain in my, er, rear end...
see, for 8 long years the nuns of my Catholic grammar school forced us to memorize those catechism questions and answers as if we were prepping for some theological quiz show...
[that is so not funny]
well, you may not think that’s funny, but I find it hilarious... because that recognition is the same thing that got so many Renaissance intellectuals all juiced up and fascinated... they thought these texts were ancient, pre-christian catholic catechism lessons and they figured that Hermes T. was some ancient member of the Knights of Columbus or something from the time of Moses, whose job was to teach some ancient grammar school ignoramus all about the coming of Christ...
[jesus christ!]
***
whatever you might think about religious instruction, those nuns force fed us religion the way geese get force fed corn for the sake of foie gras...
****
see that’s what happens when you take the time to read and think through the original material for yourself... you make personal connections that aren’t written down anywhere by the academics and sure as hell can’t be found in any wiki article...
[hmm]
****
you also begin to understand things in a way that changes your view of things you thought were carved in stone...
****
so in this case, while much of the information in the Corpus Hermeticum (and the Asclepius) sounds like it came right out of a catholic catechism, Hermes spoke of a deity that’s more consistent with the Gnostic demiurge, than any New Testament God —
[hmm]
and while the Gnostic demiurge bears an interesting resemblance to Yahweh, from the Old Testament, — you know, Jaws —
[hmm]
I can’t say much more about that now... what I CAN say is that it’s got me interested in the rabbit hole of Gnosticism...
[uh oh!]
don’t worry, that’s not something I’m gonna bother you with... not in the context of THIS fairytale...
[thank you]
Most interesting for Jungians is the fact that the Hermetic texts are, indeed, written in the form of a dialogue — which is the very form Jung used in his Red Book... it’s also consistent with a 4,000 year old Egyptian text known as the Dialogue of a World-Weary Man with his Ba, as indeed, Hermeticism is linked to, and probably, even derived from, ancient Egypt.
[ooh]
And I just have to say this about Jung for those of you more acquainted with his work: it seems more obvious to me now that Jung's use of Active Imagination, his so-called "Transcendent Function," of which his Red Book is a powerful example, is actually an explicit practice of Theurgy, as he dialogues with the Spirit of the Depths...
[hello, I am a psychiatrist and I would like to prescribe you some pills that will make you go crazy]
[ahem]
reading directly from the Hermetica shows me that Jung’s conception of Individuation is consistent with the aims of Henosis, Theurgy and all of Hermeticism... not to mention those of Hansel and Gretel...
[is that so?]
anyway, achieving all this goodness and reunion with the One as recommended by Hermes is the sum and substance of Theurgy... which actually ends up being a not so occult method of worshiping the deity of your choice... and being rewarded for it by a generous gift of divine grace...
and no... I’m not gonna ask you again for the grace of your support...
[I am surprised]
not in this episode...
I’ll just let somebody else do it...
[PLEASE! Please! Please!]
[oh my god!]
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PART THREE [32:38]
TEIL DREI: In which we get on the Time Machine and take a little trip to look for the real Hermes Trismegistus: in Sweden?
[Jävla helvete]
An odd, but common, thread I have always found interesting in the many references to Hermeticism I’ve come across through the years is a kind of consistent obsession so many people have with learning the true identity of Hermes Trismegistus.
[that’s correct]
Everyone seems terribly eager to weigh in on this fairly obvious non-mystery.
[excuse me?]
once again, according to Wikipedia:
Many Christian writers, including Lactantius, Thomas Aquinas, Augustine, Giordano Bruno, Marsilio Ficino, Tommaso Campanella and Giovanni Pico della Mirandola considered Hermes Trismegistus to be a wise pagan prophet who foresaw the coming of Christianity.
[and the same again and again and again... this is repetetive]
[definitely]
one of the clues we have comes in Line 13 of the Emerald Tablet. The crucial part reads:
Itaque vocatus sum Hermes Trismegistus, habens tres partes philosophiae totius mundi.
[ha ha ha ha, that’s fucking not funny]
er, sorry...
Therefore am I named Thrice-Great Hermes, having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world.
And, whaddya know — this doesn’t tell us who H.T is... but it does tell us something about his nature... and it sure backs up my intuitive understanding of those 3 fairytale dresses because those "three parts of the philosophy of the whole world" are unmistakeable as a reference to Alchemy, Astrology and Theurgy.
[yeah, so what?]
****
- [It is] true, without a lie, certain and most true
- That which is below is as that which is above, and that which is above is as that which is below, to perform the miracles of the one thing.
- And as all things were from the one, by means of the meditation of the one, thus all things were born from the one, by means of adaptation.
- Its father is the Sun, its mother is the Moon, the Wind carried it in its belly, its nurse is the earth.
- The father of the whole world [or "of all of the initiates"?] is here.
- Its power is whole if it has been turned into earth.
- You will separate the earth from the fire, the subtle from the dense, sweetly, with great skill.
- It ascends from earth into heaven and again it descends to the earth, and receives the power of higher and of lower things.
- Thus you will have the Glory of the whole world.
- Therefore will all obscurity flee from you.
- Of all strength this is true strength, because it will conquer all that is subtle, and penetrate all that is solid.
- Thus was the world created.
- From this were wonderful adaptations, of which this is the means. Therefore am I named Thrice-Great Hermes, having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world.
- It is finished, what I have said about the working[s] of the Sun.
****
I know, I know... this still doesn’t tell us who Thrice-greatest Hermes is or was. One thing I can tell you for sure though, and that is: I have discovered his true identity...
[no way!]
oh yes, way...!
and yup, we’re talking about another one of Hansel’s historical ancestors...
[well, that’s no surprise at all]
Before I reveal the truth about this extraordinary personage, let me introduce you to a few more of those historical family ancestors, and specifically, those who share the same dominant personality trait as Hansel... Meaning: Intuition...
[alright, if you insist]
so, let’s hop on the time machine and take a little trip up to Sweden, okay...
[Men vad i helvetets fan?]
[I’ve been sittin’ here in the freaken’ stratosphere for an hour and 10 minutes! now there’s like 90 million people on this fucken’ thing.
🎶 CTA chime 🎶
[Doors closing. Standing passengers please do not lean against the doors]
[sound of a minor crash]
[ouch!]
okay so, if we take the local and stop off a few places between 1688 and 1772, we can follow Emanuel Swedenborg (29 January 1688 / 29 March 1772) around and see where he fits in the Holzhacker family tree... you’ve heard of Swedenborg, right — the famous theologian, scientist, philosopher, and mystic...?
[maybe]
at first glance it might seem that understanding Swedenborg as a direct ancestor of Hansel isn’t quite accurate. He is, after all, Swedish, not German —
[oh, thank you very much captain obvious]
and even more pointedly, his early life interest in mathematics, physics and anatomy seems to indicate that he’s more connected to the Thinking Function than the Intuitive Function...
[oh, absolutely]
Then again, his reputation as a seer or mystic indicates Intuition must be his dominant function...
[precisely]
and that means you’d have to think his Typology and Temperament connects him to both Intuition and Thinking — making him then a so-called NT — Intuitive Thinker...
[I don’t think you know]
yeah well, I don’t know enough about him to say if he was extraverted or introverted, but I DO know that I, myself, was educated in the sciences, and only later, in my 40s, got introduced to my own Intuition.
[who cares?]
unlike Swedenborg though, I’m no NT...
[thinking not your strongpoint, dear?]
yeah, I guess so... in fact, my Thinking function is a real problem...
see, over the years, I’ve observed that NT types, like Jung — and un-like myself — have a way with words... and what I mean is they have a way of expressing intuitive concepts with seeming ease, and with a clarity born of the strength of their Thinking Function...
[can you believe that? I don’t know how I got that]
guys like that make me envious as hell, because I struggle mightily with the verbal expression of each and every thought and intuitive concept I want to communicate.
[you got that right]
and that’s true ESPECIALLY when it comes to writing and preparing each episode of this podcast... see I can sense that my difficulty is a consequence of the strength of my Feeling function... Paired with Intuition, Feeling can never find the right sequence of words for anything...
[I know]
just remember: Gretel is most likely the Feeling function...
[I remember]
and what does she do? She never says ANYTHING... She just cries...
[awww]
Anyway, Swedenborg wrote and published so very much stuff, I would have to read through a greater chunk of it in order to form a more educated opinion about him... but having gotten just a taste of that writing, there’s no doubt in my mind he qualifies as a Theurgist...
[interesting]
Something else I know is that because of his interest in metallurgy, mining and chemistry, he might even have been an Alchemist... see, whenever you read about early modern alchemists it turns out that — even more than chemistry — most of them did, indeed, study metallurgy and mining.
And that’s because before Robert Boyle (1627 - 1691) — who died in 1691 — there really was no chemistry as we now know it... Boyle was an alchemist who brought the Thinking Function to bear on his alchemical work, and so he became known as the father of modern chemistry...
[clever]
ultimately, there’s no question Swedenborg belongs somewhere in the Holzhacker family tree... and while his writings have a strong Christian bent — not to mention a heavy-duty biblical focus — I’m intrigued enough to want read more of his stuff first-hand... that is, at least in translation...
[are you sure?]
let’s get back on the Time Machine and go back another 100 years or so and visit another Swedish Holzhacker ancestor by the name of Johannes Bureus (1568–1652)...
[there’s no more room, no!]
[can we go today?]
[keep all limbs and extremities within the confines of the vehicle]
[sound of train leaving station]
[sound of hammering]
[collision imminent]
[sound of crash]
[not good]
Johnny B is super-important because he embodies so many of the underlying themes of Hansel and Gretel. In fact, there are so many facts about him that once again, it’s difficult for an NF like myself to sort them out and present them logically.
[oh no...]
As I just said, this is a serious problem for us NFs. We can read and absorb information like sponges, but then squeezing out that information into a nice, neat sequence of well-summarized and logically ordered ideas seems a practical impossibility.
[affirmative]
normally, all we end up with is a puddle and a muddle...
[indubitably]
I mean, talk about a crappy first draft... you can always tell when you’re reading the work of an NF...
[yup!]
we tend to jump all over the place with relative clauses trying to give you context instead of just coming right to the point and delivering the goods...
[exactly]
so it’s only by the grace of some very patient, editorial deity — and a helluva lot of re-re-re-re-and-RE-writing — this podcast isn’t a complete and utter muddle...
[enough rants]
okay, rant over...
so one — or let’s say, a pocketful — of the facts linking Bureus to Hansel are Hansel’s Moon rocks...
first of all, in researching Theurgy, I was surprised to learn that there was (and still is) an intuitive practice known as PSEPHOMANCY...
[what the fuck is that?]
simply put psephomancy is a method of divination using pebbles... and while the connection between Hansel’s Moon rocks and Bureus does indeed come about through pebbles and divination, it does NOT come about by way of psephomancy...
[what the fuck!]
it comes about through Runes...
[huh?]
and that’s because Runes are linked to the same sort of pre-christian, Teutonic religious worship we already mentioned in Episode 3...
[I remember]
right now, it still might sound a little far-fetched —
[indeed]
in subsequent episodes though we’re gonna see how it makes make even more sense to connect Hansel’s pebbles with Runes than with a rosary...
[okee dokee]
so the real reason we’re visiting Johannes Bureus — Johnny B — right now, is that he considered Runes to constitute a Scandinavian or a Gothic Kabbalah
...in which the secrets of all sciences—including alchemy—had been hidden for posterity
and get this: Wilhelm Grimm too, was fascinated with Runes... he wrote two books on the subject with something of the same intent — meaning: he wanted to show that Runes were a deep, ancient source of primal Teutonic wisdom.
[no, really]
Bureus felt that the:
...runic letters were signs of divine secrets, leading the one who could fathom their full meaning to a union with the ultimate godhead....
[ha, really? I am so surprised about that]
That’s Theurgy, right...?
[intake of breath]
and Henosis...
[another intake of breath]
and Hansel and Gretel...
[I cannot imagine that. I am surprised]
According to Bureus, the very act of interpreting the Runes not only revealed primal secrets of Gothic culture — which he felt to be the true basis of all European culture — but that the activity of laboring at this kind of interpretation was, itself, a kind of Alchemical operation or even Theurgic ritual that led one to become, not merely a god-like being but, in the words of Pico della Mirandola, "a divinity clothed with human flesh."
[how is that possible?]
So Runes are not the only thing that marks Bureus as an ancestor of Hansel... there’s much more information on that front and as it comes much deeper in the fairytale it belongs in much later episodes... for now though, Bureus is linked to Hermes Trismegistus — not only by his making Runic wisdom sound like Hermetic wisdom — the connection comes indirectly through his interest in reading alchemical texts, and reading the work of one particular alchemist, Gerhard Dorn, who had a particular interest in the Swiss physician: Paracelsus...
and it’s by way of Dorn that Bureus adds yet another dress to the trinity of fairytale, Hermetic couture...
[you’re kidding, right?]
actually it’s not a dress, but it really should be because it’s Dorn (who may or may not have been quoting Paracelsus) when he mentions another important intuitive art... and while this art may or may not show up in any of the Grimms’ fairy tales, it certainly shows up in the work of Pico della Mirandola...
[hmm, whats that?]
it’s the Kaballah...
[really?]
yup...
Pico, was a student of Marsilio Ficino, and he was the first Christian to treat knowledge of Kaballah as valuable... in fact it was his opinion that Theurgy and the Kaballah were the best proofs of Christ's divinity...
[sound of group shocked]
so I’m gonna quote from a marvelous article in the Journal of Early Science and Medicine — 17 (2012) pp. 500-522 — just to show you how we got here... it’s called Alchemy of the Ancient Goths: Johannes Bureus’ Search for the Lost Wisdom of Scandinavia... written by Håkan Håkansson
[do not do that please... no, no, no, no!]
it says:
He (Bureus) devoted particular attention to Dorn’s account of how Adam, infused by the light of God, had invented all the arts and sciences. To make sure that this divine wisdom remained intact for future generations, his sons had engraved two tablets of stone, describing all natural arts in hieroglyphical characters.
[that’s a fugazy]
[I’m sorry, what?]
[it’s a fake]
[oooh! fuggedaboudit!]
[ahem]
After the Flood, one of these tablets was found on Mount Ararat by Noah, who passed the knowledge on to his descendants. From them it later spread to Chaldea, Persia and Egypt, where it flourished under the divine supervision of Hermes Trismegistos. In the course of time, however, the 'universal knowledge’ of Adam gradually deteriorated and fragmented into different disciplines, so that ‘one man became an astronomer, another magician, a third cabalist, and a fourth an alchemist'.
****
When reading Dorn’s account, Bureus clearly envisioned the runic alphabet as a symbolic representation of Adam’s divine knowledge, containing not only the secrets of alchemy but also of astronomy, magic, and the Cabala—sciences that were not merely related, but constituted different facets of the one and only "Ur-science," the Adamic wisdom.
****
[this is the biggest pile of crap I’ve ever heard]
In our next episode we’re gonna hear a little more about Theurgy and a lot more about Magic, although I gotta tell you, while I may be really good at Astrology and reading someone’s birthchart, I’m NOT very good at predicting the future... which is to say, I’m not very good at predicting exactly what I’m gonna say in the next episode...
[that’s bad, that’s bad, that’s bad]
exactly.
so yeah, as I predicted in the last episode, we ARE gonna meet the Cumaean Sibyl and we’re also gonna meet the real Dr. Faustus... but not in that order...
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[esatto.]
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