In Ep. 30 we find the real Doctor Faust, John Oliver, and a Renaissance MeToo movement, all hidden within the symbolism of Hansel's Moon Rocks
Part 1 [03:34] - In which we meet the real Dr. Faustus and find out he was the Julia Child of Renaissance magic
Part 2 [15:51] - In which we learn about the connection between AI, the Magic 8 Ball, and a couple of little black poodles
Part 3 [27:58] - In which the real Dr. Faust pulls a John Oliver and pisses off a whole bunch of Renaissance intellectuals
Part 4 [37:08] - In which we participate in a thinking man’s magical spelling bee
Part 5 [42:03] - In which we all have a Renaissance MeToo moment
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[what are you doing, you moron?]
[the following presentation is intended only for immature audiences]
[I bid you welcome]
[in the beginning god created the heaven and the earth]
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Bless me Fader, for I have sinned, it’s been about 2 months since my last episode...
[you realize some people aren’t going to be happy with this]
yeah, well... apologies to my two, three listeners... this material is awfully busy, and even though I’ve already done the heavy lifting of research and writing... editing? ooh, that just takes as long as it takes...
[go to a therapist]
[you sure do have your problems]
🎶 Anachronist 🎶
Hi there, and welcome back to the Hansel and Gretel Code... This here is episode 30...
[yes, this is amazing! I am totally impressed by everything that is happening here!]
[I’m listening, but I don’t like it.]
In our last episode we played one last game of Simon Says, and learned about a guy named Saint, er, I mean, Mr. Cyprian, whose autobiographical story marked him as an ancestor of QAnon...
[no way]
come to think of it, considering his Theurgical exploits were so wild and crazy... I’m just thinking... he may have pulled off one of the greatest Alchemical and Theurgical feats of all-time...?
[what’s that?]
well, you see, gold wasn’t the only thing Alchemists were after... there was another fabled item on the wish-list of most wanna-be Theurgists and Alchemists...
[what’s that?]
[something so incredible, I mistrust my own judgement]
IMMORTALITY...
[holy shit!]
and so maybe the anonymous Q is Cyprian himself...
[holy shit! heh, heh]
[oh my god. this is just fucking stupid.]
yeah, yeah...
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PART ONE [03:34]
Teil eins: In which we meet the real Dr. Faustus, and find out he was the Julia Child of Renaissance magic
[Julia Child presents the chicken sisters, and old madam hen]
[(an exasperated) oh boy, oh boy]
last time, we found out that way back in 1587 somebody took the Pizzagate details of Cyprian’s story, combined them with all of that fanciful Simon Says material from the Clementine Recognitions, and created an instant bestseller known as: das Faustbuch...
[ja, ja, it’s okay]
it was first translated into English in 1592 as:
THE HISTORY OF THE DAMNABLE LIFE and DESERVED DEATH OF DOCTOR JOHN FAUSTUS
[yikes!]
turns out there was a guy who traveled all over Germany in the early 16th century calling himself Magister Georgius Sabellicus, Faustus Junior... and wherever he went he passed himself off as a Theurgist, Astrologer, Alchemist, Seer, and even medical doctor...
[a most distinguished scientist]
uh, not...
plenty of sources testify to his existence — and his questionable character... and so his sketchy reputation provided the perfect hook to hang all of that juicy Cyprian and Simon Magus material on...
[ooh]
whoever had that bright idea mixed all those stories together, added a dash of the story of a certain Saint Theophilus of Adana... a guy who, despite his reported deal with the devil, did NOT get himself demoted from Saint Theophilus to Mr. Theophilus...
[ooh]
and well:
🎶 That’s Entertainment...! 🎶
[I’m sorry, you just have inferior taste]
let me tell you... the Faust book is well worth reading not only because to this day, it’s still entertaining — it’s also excellent training for your Intuition... which really means: it lets your Intuition teach you about itself...
[how?]
well, with or without your cooperation, your Intuition is always gonna go ahead and do its thing, and, you know, read between the lines...
if you turn a blind eye to it, though — as most people in this culture do — all you’re gonna get is an obvious morality play of right vs. wrong, even while it’s dressed up as comedic fantasy...
[alright, well that’s good enough for me. that’s close enough, ha, ha]
but if you dare to look, you’re going to have one of those awkward moments of cognitive dissonance that Intuition alone has the power to produce...
[what are you talking about?]
that early Faust story has just enough humor in it to let your logical mind take a back seat and allow Intuition to do the driving... and if you do manage to resist that urge to use your logical judgment, you’re gonna notice that the character everyone is supposed to think of as wrong — if not downright evil — is pretty much a personification of Intuition...
[pseudo-intellectual bullshit]
I think it’s best if you read this early version of Faust for yourself... you can borrow a very nice modern translation of it on archive.org...
I’ll leave a link:
[whatever]
🤓👹
Time for another gratuitous — albeit serious — aside:
I wanna mention that the translation was done by the late prof. Harry Gerald Haile... Prof. Haile just passed on Dec. 19, 2022, which kinda bums me out because I wish I could have sent him an email thanking him for the translation and for his super, interesting take on Faust...
🤓👹
remember, I told you last time I was going to introduce you to the real Dr. Faust...
[I remember]
I’m just about to do that...
[and finally!]
so that early Faust book may have been based on all sorts of guys we’ve already mentioned, but the more famous, and much more refined literary versions of Faust, namely those written by Marlowe and Goethe, were more solidly based on someone we haven’t mentioned before...
and he’s someone we need to know...
[why?]
he happens to be the very guy that the character of Hansel was based on...
[you can’t be serious]
oh yeah, I am... he’s not only Hansel’s closest metaphoric ancestor, Hansel is the spitting image of him...
[alright, if you say so]
Indeed I do...
He is the most famous German practitioner and explicator of all 3 Hermetic Arts — Theurgy, Alchemy, and Astrology — and a metaphoric ancestor of
[the most interesting man in the world]
Ladies and Gentlemen... my dear listeners, frents, and supporters, I give you the humanist scholar / polymath physician from Cologne, Germany:
Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa von Nettesheim (1486-1535)
[a most distinguished scientist, whose name we know, even in the wilds of Transylvania]
[I don’t get it, because the name is just kinda boring]
his name may not be familiar to many people outside of Europe but the good news is: if Agrippa were alive today, you can be sure he'd be tackling the most important problems of modern life... namely, all those things that contribute to our global shortage of Hansel and Gretel Bread.
[stay thirsty my friends]
[ahem]
The bad news is that Agrippa's message is a genuine can of worms straight from Hades... a Pandora's Box full of information we can all use, but only your Intuition will appreciate...
***
📚🤓 Nerd Alert
what I mean by that is Agrippa had me thinking about the real difference between Theurgy and thaumaturgy... Current academic ideas about Theurgy seem to concentrate more on its connection to magic than theology, while thaumaturgy seems to be all about magic and miracles... and Agrippa's work allows any old wanna-be to imagine that he can produce miracles...
***
[oh dear, that’s rather alarming]
to academics, he’s something of an enigma, best known as the Janus faced author of two important books of the late Renaissance / early Baroque Period.
[what are they?]
One of those books was a definitive text on magic called:
De occulta philosophia libri tres / Three Books of Occult Philosophy
***(written in 1510, and first published 1531/1533)
[so what?]
this is the book that EVERYONE interested in magic coveted
[so...wh, wh, wh... why?]
because it intelligently summarized just about everything that had ever been written on the subject — or at least was known to have been published. It was particularly prized because if you had Agrippa's book on magic, you had all the occult secrets worth knowing.
[oh, I like that]
it was, in fact, something of a cookbook... which kinda made him a Julia Child of Renaissance magic...
[we’re roasting miss chicken... voila!]
see, Agrippa was an erudite adept and scholar interested in both the theory and practice of the occult arts... which as you and I know, really means
[the art of French cooking]
uh, no... it means the 3 Hermetic Arts
[of course]
for example, Agrippa speaks of the correspondence of all things in nature and in the heavens... which is a pretty obvious reference to Alchemy and the Emerald Tablet — “as above, so below”
[I remember]
then he takes it an important step further by explaining how that correspondence — above and below — is due to occult properties... something he calls virtues...
by calling them occult, he means that they’re hidden from the eyes of everyone except those who have the secret...
[ooh]
and just one of those secrets is the correspondence between the Moon and Silver, as well as between the Moon and certain Stones... which, in our story, means the Moon and Hansel’s pebbles...
[oh yeah, very nice]
of course, if you have the secret — you can see the correspondence for yourself... and once you do, you can produce magic...
[bollix, just bollix]
yeah, well, all sorts of people wanted those secrets, and still do, as a matter of fact... for goodness sakes, consider the whole New Age interest in crystals... if that doesn’t convince you, check out how crazy popular Agrippa’s book still is on amazon.com...
I’ll leave a link: Three Books of Occult Philosophy
[this is relevant to my interests]
[uh oh]
it would seem that Agrippa gave away all those secrets to any Tom, Dick, or um, Vladimir who would pony up and buy his book... and yet he constantly says that only the Wise will be able to understand... which is a typical caveat found in most serious books on Alchemy...
so when he speaks of the Wise, he doesn’t mean some old bearded geezer, or uh, you know, some uh, wiseguy...
[leave the gun, take the cannolis]
[ooh!]
he means us Intuitives... because the secret itself...? the one he really means — and there really is only one secret... that secret is Intuition...
[that’s it!]
as I keep repeating, each of us has Intuition... but our Culture — did a Holzhacker on us —
[huh?]
in acting like the Holzhacker parents, it’s done it’s level best to kick Intuition and Feeling out of the house and get them both lost in the woods of our own Unconscious...
[that’s bad! that's bad.]
it’s my experience that unless you’ve been introduced to your own Intuition — which often requires a process of initiation, and I do, indeed, know of just such a process — all of those occult, secret properties, virtues and correspondences will forever remain hidden...
[oh no!]
because to the logical mind — it’s all a bunch of hooey...
[absolutely!]
in fact, Mary Shelly made good use of this common prejudice when she had Victor Frankenstein's father say:
[go to bed... yes now... go to bed!]
[ahem]
Ah! Cornelius Agrippa! My dear Victor, do not waste your time upon this; it is sad trash.
[I agree]
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PART TWO [15:51]
Teil zwei: In which we learn about the connection between AI, the Magic 8 Ball, and a couple of little black poodles
[does your dog bite? nice doggy...]
[ooh. arf, arf, ruff, woooo...]
you don’t need to read a whole lot of Agrippa’s book to realize that he isn’t selling magic spells — even as he, uh, spells them all out for anyone and everyone to read...
[dad joke groans]
and for sure, all sorts of do-it-yourself, get-rich-quick sorcerers and wanna-be’s eagerly scooped them up...
[fer sure]
now that you and I have done some serious spelunking in the rabbit hole of Theurgy, it’s easy for us as Intuitives to see that Agrippa is defending, defining, and rehabilitating Intuition — and the practice of Theurgy — for the sake of those of us who may have lost the thread... whether that was by way of cultural ignorance or simple ecclesiastic fiat...
[your soul is mine forever. I own you]
[nyaah...!]
[that’s not funny]
yeah, yeah...
Agrippa’s constant emphasis is on how we can use Hermetic secrets to reach an intimate knowledge of Nature, and of God... and achieve Henosis — the Theurgic union of the soul with it’s divine origin, i.e. with the One, which Agrippa, being the good Catholic he was, simply calls God...
[amen!]
just for the record, for all his depth of understanding of magic and theurgic practice — as you and I understand it — he specifically addresses Theurgy in his text, but only to give it a sort of blanket condemnation along with Goetia... you know, black magic...
[what the hell?]
I think that’s his good Catholic boy complex coming through... that and his intelligent desire to steer clear of the Inquisition...
🎶 inquisition splash 🎶
[ahem]
reading Agrippa, it’s apparent that he is a highly educated Intuitive... adept at all 3 of the Hermetic arts... and his books were so famous that, as I said, he’s considered the chief model for the character of Faust in both Marlowe's and Goethe's versions of the story.
[how do you know that? how do you know that?]
according to Frances Yates, the famous scholar of Renaissance magic and occultism, Christopher Marlowe's Doctor Faustus was essentially propaganda against Theurgy, and against Agrippa...
and that’s obvious if only because, in the end, Marlowe’s Faustus is taken off to hell... punished for his interest in occult, Intuitive knowledge, and the power it could bestow...
[naturally]
not having read Marlowe myself,
[uh, excuse you]
I can’t say whether or not Marlowe understood his own Intuition... I can only surmise that he didn’t...
[is that so?]
now I did read a few analyses of the play...
[oh my]
you gotta think though, whoever wrote those analyses — scholarly or not — probably wasn’t Intuitive... so that’s no real help...
[some people say]
I have read Goethe’s Faust — a couple of times... at least Part One, that is...
apparently, Goethe was an astute reader of Agrippa, and I think, much more amenable to Intuition, as well as to Agrippa... at least he allows Faust his redemption...
[hooray!]
both Marlowe and Goethe characterize Faust as a kind of Aristotelian savant... he had mastered everything that was worth learning by virtue of Logic, but found that it brought him little or no satisfaction...
[and why not?]
funny you should ask... this interest in mastering all human knowledge is a metaphoric theme we’re going to find later on in the fairytale...
for sure, it’s fundamental to the development of AI...
[indeed]
it was once a serious goal of at least two 17th century giants of philosophy: Francis Bacon and Jan Comenius... it was termed Pansophism... the goal being to organize all human knowledge in such a way as to be able to learn it all...
[wow!]
the modern enterprise of digitizing all available books, and writing, and even the spoken word, and making it all available on-line, almost exactly fits the aims of Comenius, in particular, who was, in fact, an educator...
this is fundamental to the AI project...
[that’s correct]
but just as Faust was dissatisfied with knowledge of bare Facts, the unspoken goal of AI is to find something beyond factual knowledge... and that’s why I believe that AI should stand for artificial intuition, because the aim is to formulate novel ideas from all of that factual information...
and in order to do that, AI has to replicate the power of Intuition... which in reality, would be genius — and nothing short of Alchemy...
in fact, AI is attempting to create genius the way one of the characters in Faust creates the famous homunculus...
[what the fuck is that?]
that was like the Magic 8 Ball... it was a little being in a bottle who could answer all questions...
[oh wow man]
but AI can’t give us Truth... it can only regurgitate facts and opinions that are fed to it... that makes it like a 6th grader trying to sound like an intelligent adult, by parroting his parents’ opinions and a few facts from the Discovery Channel... the only difference is that AI has a much wider and more complex variety of opinions and facts to parrot...
trying to create living and breathing Truth out of cold digitized facts and random opinions is impossible without Intuition... and that’s why I believe AI is trying to recreate Intuition, and THAT...? that makes it Faustian...
[wow!]
I don’t want to get us sidetracked into the Faustian enterprise of AI... or make this episode all about Faust...
[thank you]
I’m no expert in either... but I can see Goethe’s Mephistopheles as a personification of AI...
[ooh]
he’s witty as hell, but he’s also an amoral narcissist devoid of empathy... and for all of his amazing powers, the one super-power he (and AI) does NOT possess — and quite possibly never will — is Intuition...
[not good]
we know for sure that Goethe used Agrippa as a model for Faust because he has Mephisto first appear as a black poodle...
[huh?]
well that’s another example of metalepsis... that snooty sounding literary trope where an author makes an obvious reference to some famous something written previously by somebody else...
in this case Goethe was making reference to a well known tabloid notion about Agrippa immortalized by a very gossipy historian known as Paolo Giovio back in 1546:
He died...execrated by many as a wretch suspected of practicing black art, because they thought he took about with him an evil genius in the shape of a black dog.
[can you believe that?]
[certainly]
in checking my sources, I found out that Goethe was also making reference to another gossipy historian writing 500 years earlier than Paolo Giovio, this time about the death of Pope Sylvester II... and we’ll have more to say about him in Episode 31...
[please, don’t do that]
***
📚🤓 Nerd Alert
Agrippa describes himself...as a man almost transformed into a dog: he admits in one of his texts (De vanitate) that he “resembles nothing so much as one dog biting, barking, cursing.” The black poodle business is also a metaleptic reference to cynic philosophy AND so-called cynic satire — (not exclusively) because the word cynic comes from the word for dog in ancient Greek.
***
hey, he’s important to our story...
[I don’t think so]
hey, don’t be so sure...
If you ask me, describing Agrippa as a wretch is pure Schadenfreude... because his Intelligence, Intuition, and Empathy must have been pretty hard for other intellectuals to swallow...
(not surprisingly, the same sort of thing might have been true of Pope Sylvester II)
[wow! that’s a surprise]
Considering Agrippa’s zeitgeist — he died in 1535 — he's what many today would call a Renaissance Man. yet even for the Renaissance, he was way ahead of his time...
and vilifying
[the most interesting man in the world]
betrays nothing but envy, and pretty much shows the world wasn’t ready for him...
[so what?]
Referencing Faust and Agrippa at this point ain’t no gratuitous aside.
Reading Faust in any edition gives the impression of a guy who doesn’t quite know what Intuition is, but realizing that something is missing, comes to want that something back from wherever it had been banished by the culture... and that something turns out to be Intuition...
given the fact that the Catholic Church had pretty much called dibs on Intuition, the Faust legend tells us that all of mankind is forced to make a pact with the Devil in order to get it back.
[holy shit!]
as far as I can tell, Agrippa managed to recover his Intuition without having to give up his religion... so in writing the definitive book on magic, he was offering up that same possibility to anyone who dared to read between the lines...
[nonsense]
okay, that’s just my opinion, but I think it’s possible the Goethe recognized this about Agrippa, and used Faust’s foibles and struggles to illustrate just how difficult — and dangerous — it is to regain the Intuition we were all born with...
[this is the biggest pile of crap I’ve ever heard]
uh, yeah... right on Mrs. Holzhacker...
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PART THREE [27:58]
Teil drei: In which the real Dr. Faust pulls a John Oliver and pisses off a whole bunch of Renaissance intellectuals
[angry crowd]
[be advised, multiple hostiles detected]
[piss off!]
[yes sir!]
Agrippa’s other principal work was a famous, and very entertaining, declamation against all arts, sciences and professions — including anything and everything considered occult
De Incertitudine et Vanitate Scientiarum...
[ahem]
sorry...
On the Uncertainty and Vanity of the Arts and Sciences, and the Excellence of the Word of God: An Invective Declamation (1526/1527)
[are you out of your mind?]
It’s a very sarcastic attack on all existing fields of knowledge (including all 3 Hermetic arts), and on the pretensions of close-minded scholars and intellectuals who practiced them...
he also denounces all the BS that had grown up around the simple doctrines of Christianity, and pleads for a return to the primitive beliefs of the early Christian Church. in other words he’s all for that same return to the Old Time Religion we talked about in earlier episodes... remember...?
[no!]
well, at the time he wrote it, it caused a big stir and pissed off a whole host of characters — educated and otherwise.
[angry crowd]
[I will fuck you up!]
[oooh!]
later on, it caused all sorts of philosophers and historians to lose their minds over his seeming about-face on the subject of Magic...
[can you please explain wtf you are talking about]
we’ve already said Agrippa was heavily invested in the Occult - Hermetic Arts — not just in terms of his academic interest, but his practice of them as well. yet here he was calling BS on them and their practitioners.
[confused what?]
You’d almost think he was the first in that long line of skeptic magicians — guys like Harry Houdini, the Amazing Randi, and Penn and Teller... all of them putting energy and vehemence into calling bullshit on whatever they think of as “spiritualism” and superstition...
and there was Agrippa doing the same thing...
[precisely]
except unlike those modern sarcastic entertainers — guys who can’t hold a candle to Agrippa in class and intelligence... nobody’s sure which side of the fence he was really on.
[why, why, why? why?]
he had only just published his cook book praising the virtues of magic... so what the hell was he doing publishing another book — almost simultaneously — and publicly contradicting himself...?
[I have no idea at all]
Unlike these later guys — whose only claim to fame is slight of hand, and whose focus on superstition betrays their complete misunderstanding of Intuition — Agrippa wasn’t some fancy entertainer...
***
📚🤓 Nerd Alert
in Agrippa’s day, magician entertainers and 3-card-monte guys alike were all called jugglers...
***
and he sure as hell wasn’t a charlatan... even if those modern entertainer / skeptic guys would probably think he was...
oddly enough, with this text, he was indeed out to entertain...
[whatever I am, whether it’s a new me or an old me, remember, I’m still just an entertainer...] [well]
all you gotta do is read between the lines to see that the whole thing is all tongue-in-cheek sarcasm and satire... think Renaissance era John Oliver...
[Charles. Elton John knows things about you, and not just the tampon thing...]
[I’m not doing tampax again.]
[excuse me]
hey, you can read Agrippa for yourself...
I’ll leave a link: On the Vanity of the Arts and Sciences...
[okee dokee]
it’s well worth reading because it reveals Agrippa to be a witty polymath with an educated tolerance for Paradox, and a serious understanding of Intuition...
by attacking magic he’s not contradicting himself, he’s targeting magician wannabes... guys whose only interest lies in exploiting the technology and power of Hermeticism for the sake of ego and personal gain...
[I like that!]
he’s also targeting critics of what we now understand as Theurgy... all sorts of would-be Fausts, who not only can’t read between the lines, but have no interest in getting their Intuition back... of course, it takes an Intuitive to see this... to see that Agrippa's invective against magic is directed against the hubris — the vanitas — of people with no clue as to what Intuition really is, and who, as a result, refuse to grant it legitimacy...
[oh yeah]
Magic aside, he also makes fun of big-shot academics working — as we would say these days — in silos... in other words he makes comedy hay out of the tunnel-vision and isolation of the specialist. Aristotelian Faust know-it-alls... each, of course, insisting on the superiority of their own opinion.
[roger that]
throughout the text, his greatest source of comedy material comes from quoting the dogmatic assertions of various scholars contradicting each other over the very same facts...
[oh my god, ridiculous]
It seems particularly obvious, at least between the lines, that Agrippa enjoyed taunting people like that... and his object was to teach and entertain those who understood him best.
Q: And just who was it that understood him best?
A: Anyone with a real clue about Intuition, that’s who.
[wow]
Q: And just what was he teaching them, you might ask?
A: My opinion is that he was modeling the Neoplatonic / Socratic perspective concerning all knowledge.
[what’s that?]
Knowing that we really know nothing...
[aha!]
and that makes him a Faust who redeemed himself... a Faust who got his own Intuition back...
[awesome!]
and on that point I believe he was heavily influenced by another famous Intuitive who lived and worked for some time in Cologne, and who died about 20 years before Agrippa was born...
[who’s this]
[my name is unimportant]
hey, don’t be so modest...
His name is Nicolaus Cusanus or Nikolaus von Kues... (1401 – 1464)
[oh fuck!]
hey, relax... all you need to know is that one of Nicky’s most famous texts was called:
De Docta Ignorantia / Of Learned Ignorance
and while that text crosses pretty heavily into theologic territory, it’s easy to catch his Intuitive Typology at work in this and in all his writing and thinking...
[who cares?]
speaking of Intuition — which is pretty much what we’re always doing in this podcast — in a work Nicky called De coniecturis / On Conjectures he uses the term Intellectus to mean Intuition...
[you can’t be serious]
well, I am, because when you read what he has to say about the thing he calls Intellectus, he’s really talking about Intuition in the way that you and I understand it...
and it’s obvious that whatever we take the modern English word Intellect to mean is not at all what Nicky meant...
[and why not?]
as a matter of fact, there really isn’t any single word in Latin that adequately describes what the ancient Romans — or anyone writing in Latin — might have considered Intuition to be... we can only read Latin texts and recognize when people like Nicky are describing what you and I know as Intuition...
what they chose to name it doesn’t really matter...
[why the fuck not?]
well, that’s because Intuition itself is impossible to put into words... so no matter what you call it it’s all just
[words, words, words!]
[wolf call]
*🎶*🎶*
PART FOUR [37:17]
Teil vier: In which we participate in a thinking man’s magical spelling bee
[can you spell Stephanopoulos?]
[F F F F]
[how do you spell magic spell?]
As puzzled as most scholars are by Agrippa’s paradoxical stance on magic, one thing they all seem certain of is that Agrippa was dead set against Scholastic theology...
[what the fuck is that?]
that’s the business of scholarly theologians — guys like Aquinas and Duns Scotus — trying to prove religious doctrine by way of hair-splitting, Aristotelian Logic.
[oh god, oh jesus!]
Agrippa called them “egregious branglers” and “litigious sophisters” — in Latin, of course — saying they were guys who:
...believe that they can find out and demonstrate those things which are only to be believed by faith....
he felt that by grafting Logic onto matters of Faith, these guys had created an improbable monster, and he called the results of their efforts: a centaur... you know, half man / half horse...
[oh thank you very much Captain obvious]
here’s the thing though: by saying this, he betrays the bias we all have in favor of our own Typology and Temperament against that of our opposite number... in other words, Agrippa, having more of a Platonic Intuitive Temperament — like you and me — found himself unable to fully appreciate the arguments of guys having a more Aristotelian, Logical temperament... guys like Aquinas and Duns Scotus...
guys whose hair-splitting logic and complicated, wordy disquisitions are just as difficult for us Intuitives to read and understand as Agrippa’s Intuitive texts would have been for Logical types like them...
[have you got no brain?]
well, yeah I do, except, just like Agrippa’s, mine’s not wired into the same Typology as the Scholastics...
🤡🤓👹
In yet another gratuitous aside:
consider the word: Haecceity... a latin neologism created by Duns Scotus to actually mean what an intuitive could better understand as Hierophany...
I can’t believe they asked this 8th grader to spell haecceitas in a spelling bee.
🤡🤓👹
[thinking not your strong point, dear?]
well, if you consider that as far as Typology goes, the Thinking Function — which is pretty much synonymous with Logic — is, in fact, my Inferior Function... so you’d be right about that...
and because our Culture is biased in favor of Logic — and the Thinking Function — that explains why Agrippa, as an Intuitive, was considered mentally unstable.
[are you sure?]
oh yeah... according to Professor Marc van der Poel
...Agrippa's involvement with magic was...labeled as the delusion of a psychologically unstable mind, a ready victim of the superstition that was assumed to have generally reigned during the sixteenth century.
[hocus pocus abracadabra]
but there’s that word again,
[hocus pocus]
uh, no... I meant: Superstition — the magic word Logic uses to dismiss Intuition.
The fact that so many people ARE superstitious doesn't negate Intuition, it means that superstitious people don't UNDERSTAND their own Intuition, and are vulnerable to (and more likely to believe) those who claim its power.
and in that regard, lots of people have gotten hold of magical cookbooks — including Agrippa’s — and used them to profit off superstitious people...
[True, dat]
consider this email that popped into my mailbox just a few days ago...
Are you a businessman or woman, politician or worker? Are you into entertainment without being famous? Do you want to be popular and famous in life contact the spellcaster, a very powerful and spiritual man who can solve all kinds of problems, My Spell is 100% reliable for positive results of any life problems we cure all sickness .. My Service include:
- - Love Spells
- - Lost Love Spells
- - Divorce Spells
- - Marriage Spells
- - Good Luck Spells
- - Promotion Spells
- - Money Spell
- - Good Job Spell etc.
- - Get Your Money Back from scammers spells
We also have cure for any illness
[any questions, please?]
*🎶*🎶*
PART FIVE [42:03]
Teil fünf: In which we all have a Renaissance MeToo moment
[I’ll kick your ass.]
[you can’t do that!]
[yes I can]
[‘cause I’m a girl]
[ha, ow!]
the Schadenfreude unleashed at Agrippa’s death should come as no surprise... we know that his 2 most famous works brought him plenty of fame — but almost zero respect... and well, you can’t expect to make fun of people in print without causing a backlash...
but there’s something else... something specific in his impressive CV that helps explains his vilification, and that condescending charge of mental instability we just heard about...
[what?]
Agrippa was famous for a third text... one that marks him as the most progressive of all humanist scholars... not only of his time, but of ours as well...
except it was so far ahead of its time, no wonder he was considered looney... and that’s because in it he proclaimed the fact that women are equal to — if not superior — to men in all things that really count...
[most assuredly]
it’s called:
Declamatio de nobilitate et praecellentia foeminei sexus
[what did you say that was called?]
Declamation on the Nobility and Preeminence of the Female Sex (1529)
[wait a second! oh, I see, okay.]
in the text he wonders why it is that women are excluded from all sorts of public activities and professions... prohibited even, from taking on responsibilities and powers they are eminently suited to... things like teaching and writing, for instance...
[well, that’s no surprise at all]
[ahem]
he goes on to explain that these gender-based prohibitions have no defensible basis in fact, but only came about through the prejudice of men in power, and were perpetuated though centuries of cultural conditioning...
[no, really? I am so surprised about that. I cannot imagine that.]
Agrippa understood that insisting women are inferior to men is an arbitrary and unreasonable cultural bias, despite various claims of gospel as authority in the matter...
for instance: 1 Timothy 2 12-14 says:
[your husband is always right]
[ahem]
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
[ouch]
Agrippa deftly refutes all such arguments and yet, obviously, he didn’t make much of a dent in the status quo... I mean these days, the whole business of overturning such a ridiculous gender-based prejudice is sneeringly considered “woke”
[yes you are right]
back then Agrippa’s efforts only added to his reputation as mentally unstable...
[yes sir!]
but there’s something else in this
[hmm, what’s that?]
despite being an Intuitive, his lengthy argument leans heavily on Logic, and makes no mention of Intuition per se... and that had me thinking...
who — even in this day and age — doesn’t believe that Intuition is strictly a woman thing...? you know...a feminine trait...?
[I dunno]
it’s such a strong, common belief it might as well be a fact of nature...
[unquestionably]
zebras have stripes, and women have Intuition... you can’t change either of them...
[exactly]
except it wasn’t Nature that taught us this, it’s the culture... the culture taught us to identify women with Intuition and Intuition with women...
[what?]
it’s not a fact, it’s only a belief — one that the culture continues to reinforce, without any push-back... not even from hard-core, Po-Mo, radical Feminists...
[what?]
but there’s the rub... by insisting that Women and Intuition are synonymous, it just perpetuates and supports the cultural prejudice that women are inferior to men...
[this is really confusing for me]
well, let me explain...
because our Culture has long considered Intuition to be Irrational, a weakness, and, of course, inferior to Logic... that brings up a chicken or the egg question:
are women considered inferior because of their association with Intuition or is Intuition considered inferior because of its association with women...???
[i’m thinking this is a double duality]
Agrippa’s stance as both Male Intuitive and Feminist reinforces my own conviction that Intuition is NOT determined by gender...
[I’m sorry, what?]
I’m a guy... and I’ve got Intuition... I’m telling you... Intuition is a Typology thing, it’s not a gender thing...
[you are hormonally confused]
Western Culture has actively sought to denigrate Intuition, by calling it irrational, writing it off as flaky, and otherwise trying to get rid of it — as this fairytale implies — and it undeniably holds women in that same mental head-space...
[I thought ladies liked flowers]
so could it be that the gender-associated assumption of Western culture concerning Intuition is the unspoken, unconscious reason why women are assumed to be inferior...???
[what the fuck?]
When a culture based on the supremacy of Logic misunderstands Intuition as mere superstition and illogical fallacy, it can’t help but see women, whom it equates with Intuition in the same light: in other words, as inferior.
[clever]
This, of course, is heavily based on a near universal ignorance of Intuition,
[ha, ha, right.]
As long as Intuition is so grossly misunderstood, and as long as Women and Intuition (and by extension, all the Intuitive arts) are lumped together... no matter what strides women make in the context of this culture... this pernicious and dismissive attitude towards women is bound to persist.
[son of a bitch!]
one solution is to get rid of the cultural notion that there’s some magical, exclusive connection between Intuition and Women...
[are you crazy?]
well, as I keep saying, Intuition is not gender based... each of us has Intuition... except overturning the idea that Intuition is limited to women might sound logical, but it’s much more likely to be counter-productive...
[indubitably]
a better solution is to take the cultural stigma of irrationality and inferiority out of Intuition...
[that’s it! uh huh]
and THAT my frents, is something the author of Hansel and Gretel was trying to do...
[really?]
it’s also what you and I are doing by making and by listening to this podcast...
[nice!]
and by extension, it’s also what you’re doing by making a contribution to the podcast on my buy me a ko-fi page...
I’ll leave a link...
[that was the first hour of free psychiatry. Please donate like a gazillion dollars to continue your treatment.]
[ahem]
alrighty then,
[stop right there. this isn’t over yet]
right... it’s time to spill the beans on the true identity of Hermes Trismegistus
[and, finally!]
except I’ve decided to hold off on that and make it the subject of Episode 31...
[how could you! you’re so mean!]
yeah, well... sorry about that...
[you’ll regret that!]
well, in the context of Hansel’s Moon Rocks, I’ve got an awful lot more to say about Hermes T, so rather than adding it here, I’m just gonna give him his own episode...
[it’s for the better]
in the meantime, please do visit the website where you’ll find transcripts, links, and all my peanut gallery credits... you do remember the website address, right?
[no]
yeah, I didn’t think so... but I’ll bet you remember the drill:
[visit us on the web @...]
betweenthelines.xyz
so, until next time... as Agrippa would say...
[stay thirsty, my friends]
[oh, there’s one thing I almost forgot. do you have another minute?]
[no!]
Alrighty then, ciao a tutti...
🎶 On Your Own 🎶
[ciao, ciao]
got a question, or just want to say hi...?
*Chapter Titles read by Anna Jacobsen*
Music Credits
*🎶*🎶* Bleeping Demo by Kevin MacLeod of filmmusic.io
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PART ONE / Teil eins @03:34
@03:47 "the chicken sisters..." - Julia Child
@03:53 "(an exasperated) oh boy... oh boy..." courtesy of AmeAngelofSin and freesound.org
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@04:59 "a most distinguished scientist..." - Bela Lugosi
@05:19 "oooh" courtesy of brunchik and freesound.org
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@05:42 "ooh!" courtesy of jppi_Stu and freesound.org
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@05:45 🎶 that's entertainment 🎶 - The Band Wagon
@05:48 "I'm sorry...inferior taste..." courtesy of deleted_user_1390811 and freesound.org
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@06:09 "how?" courtesy of nuncaconci and freesound.org
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@06:36 "...good enough for me" courtesy of W1ZY and freesound.org
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@06:51 "what are you talking about?" courtesy of laelizondo and freesound.org
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@07:21 "pseudo-intellectual bullshit" courtesy of deleted_user_1390811 and freesound.org
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@07:36 "whatever" courtesy of deleted_user_1390811 and freesound.org
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@07:44 "I remember" - the head of Nostradamus
@07:52 "and, finally!" courtesy of Tim Kahn and Amy Gedgaudas and freesound.org
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@08:16 "why?" - Frank Whemple
@08:24 "you can't be serious" courtesy of shadoWisp and freesound.org
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@08:36 "alright, if you say so" — courtesy of Anna Jacobsen
@08:55 "the most interesting man..." - Will Lyman
@09:14 "a most distinguished scientist, whose name we know..." - Bela Lugosi
@09:23 "I don't get it, because the name..." courtesy of Krystal Flores and freesound.org
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@09:51 "stay thirsty..." - the most interesting guy
@09:53 "ahem" courtesy of Alivvie and freesound.org
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@10:10 "...alarming" courtesy of pyro13djt and freesound.org
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@10:25 "what are they?" courtesy of AmeAngelofSin and freesound.org
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@10:39 "so what!" courtesy of deleted_user_1390811 and freesound.org
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@10:45 "so...why...?" courtesy of soundsofscience and freesound.org
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@11:06 "ooh... I like that" courtesy of nuncaconci and freesound.org
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@11:16 "Miss Chicken..." - Julia Child
@11:35 "the art of French cooking" - Julia Child
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@11:58 "I remember" - the head of Nostradamus
@12:26 "ooh!" courtesy of jppi_Stu and freesound.org
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@12:42 "oh yeah..." - Tom Hagen
@12:56bollocks... courtesy of RoivasUGO and freesound.org
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@13:22 "...relevant to my interests" courtesy of cheesepuff and freesound.org
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@13:26 "uh oh!" courtesy of DWOBoyle and freesound.org
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@13:59 "leave the gun..." - Pete Clemenza
@14:05 “OOOH!!!” - Johnny Vincente
@14:23 "that’s it…!" courtesy of javapimp and freesound.org
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@14:33 "huh...?" courtesy of Adam_N and freesound.org
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@15:11 "oh, no!" courtesy of AmeAngelofSin and freesound.org
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PART TWO / Teil zwei @15:51
@16:04 "does your dog bite?" - Inspector Clouseau
@16:07 "ruff, ruff...woo..." - Curly
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@18:09 "what the hell...?!?" courtesy of Reitanna Seishin and freesound.org
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@18:20 🎶 inquisition splash 🎶 - Monty Python
@18:24 "ahem" courtesy of Alivvie and freesound.org
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@18:47 "how do you know that?" courtesy of Duisterwho and freesound.org
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@19:21 "naturally" courtesy of bectec and freesound.org
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@19:25 "uhh, excuse you..." courtesy of Alivvie and freesound.org
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@26:09 "the most interesting man..." - Will Lyman
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PART THREE / Teil drei @27:58
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@29:42 "OOOH!!!" - SNL
@29:55 "can you please tell me..." - AI frenchie-bot
@30:14 "(confused) what...??" courtesy of Alivvie and freesound.org
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@31:38 "...I'm an entertainer..." - Tony Hunter
@31:54 "Charles!...not the tampon thing!" - John Oliver
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@37:04 "words, words, words..." - Renfield
@37:05 wolf call - children of the night
PART FOUR / Teil vier @37:17
@37:27 "can you spell stephanopoulos?" - Murray Monster
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@38:06 "oh God, oh Jesus" courtesy of Reitanna Seishin and freesound.org
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@39:32 "...no brain?" courtesy of itinerantmonk108 and freesound.org
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@39:42 "thinking not your strong point...?" courtesy of Tim Kahn and Amy Gedgaudas and freesound.org
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@40:12 "are you sure?" courtesy of Duisterwho and freesound.org
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@41:22 "true, dat..." - Omar
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PART FIVE / Teil fünf @42:03
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@47:22 "this is really confusing..." courtesy of Krystal Flores and freesound.org
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@47:50 "...double duality" courtesy of Krystal Flores and freesound.org
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@48:36 "I thought ladies liked flowers" courtesy of Duisterwho and freesound.org
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@48:53 "WTF!!" courtesy of Duisterwho and freesound.org
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@49:14 "clever” courtesy of Tim Kahn and Amy Gedgaudas and freesound.org
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@49:21 "ha, ha, right" courtesy of itinerantmonk108 and freesound.org
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@49:48 "S.O.B.!!!" courtesy of pyro13djt and freesound.org
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@50:17 "indubitably" courtesy of bectec and freesound.org
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@50:28 "that's it" courtesy of nuncaconci and freesound.org
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@50:37 "really...?" courtesy of juror2 and freesound.org
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@50:44 "nice (echo)" courtesy of bogenseeberg and freesound.org
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@50:57 "free psychiatry..." courtesy of Duisterwho and freesound.org
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@51:25 "and, finally!" courtesy of Tim Kahn and Amy Gedgaudas and freesound.org
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@51:34 "how could you...!" courtesy of ballOOnhead and freesound.org
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@51:39 "you'll regret that!" courtesy of ballOOnhead and freesound.org
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@52:35 "No!" courtesy of theuncertainman and freesound.org
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